tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post5479339438210505482..comments2024-02-28T10:22:08.660+00:00Comments on Daddy Grognard: We could do that...Daddy Grognardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05559857164172090739noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-40537465143378444232010-03-04T10:05:55.713+00:002010-03-04T10:05:55.713+00:00I wouldn't want anyone to start bandying round...I wouldn't want anyone to start bandying round phrases like "better than 4e"; that starts us on a road that I don't particularly want to take, and I don't think that anyone else does. Look at the length of the threads on Grognardia whenever Jamie Mal speaks his mind on editions and their relative merits. Most of it is "you're worse" "No, you are" &Daddy Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05559857164172090739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-37384745478163916622010-03-04T02:52:18.656+00:002010-03-04T02:52:18.656+00:00Actually, if you don't use the OGL, you're...Actually, if you don't use the OGL, you're free to use the term "Dungeons and Dragons", as long as you're within the scope of Fair Use. That includes both compatibility and comparison. So, OSRIC (which doesn't use the OGL) could certainly do so, as could TARGA (which doesn't actually publish any products on its own). <br /><br />So, while the publishers of, say, LL Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01355324231111953098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-11442418145655578342010-03-04T01:30:34.940+00:002010-03-04T01:30:34.940+00:00Actually, I think that if you said "Fantasy R...Actually, I think that if you said "Fantasy Role Playing" to most non-gamer people, they'd look at you like you were speaking nonsense. Then you'd say "like Dungeons and Dragons", and they'd say "Oooh." :)<br /><br />You're right, though, that having that phrase locked in gives WotC a massive advantage. "Normal" people don't associate Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-50269296766922793142010-03-03T22:02:55.077+00:002010-03-03T22:02:55.077+00:00@Joseph - what I'm referring to is the OSR'...@Joseph - what I'm referring to is the OSR's inability, due to legal issues, with using the words Dungeons and Dragons in any attempt to market itself. As I mentioned in my reply to Cinderella Man, the game that most (non-gamer) people still think of when you mention Fantasy Role Playing is D&D and if we can't use that to our advantage, we're left with the retro-clones which, Daddy Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05559857164172090739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-69299710524189451782010-03-03T18:49:24.665+00:002010-03-03T18:49:24.665+00:00We're all annoyed (well, I am) that WotC is st...<i>We're all annoyed (well, I am) that WotC is stopping us calling a spade a spade and now we have to proceed by allusion rather than directness.</i><br /><br />I'm afraid you lost me completely here. What is WotC stopping us from doing, exactly?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01355324231111953098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-24741436682838385652010-03-03T16:21:44.793+00:002010-03-03T16:21:44.793+00:00Yeah, that is a pretty effective ad. Whatever rout...Yeah, that is a pretty effective ad. Whatever route the OSR takes with advertising, I think it's important to debunk the idea that the game has improved from edition to edition. That little idea is quite troublesome.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285645317925993821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-10242092255149734652010-03-03T16:17:58.107+00:002010-03-03T16:17:58.107+00:00Those sound like great suggestions, CM. I know tha...Those sound like great suggestions, CM. I know that WotC have colossal leverage when it comes to getting their brand into games stores, and we don't even have access to the one name that most people think of when you mention RPGs. If somehow, the publishers of the various retro-clones could get together and get something going that reaches out to those not currently involved in gaming...Daddy Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05559857164172090739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3902725340164986341.post-48841619943828486832010-03-03T14:30:38.592+00:002010-03-03T14:30:38.592+00:00Focus on the pros of OSR: less time rolling more t...Focus on the pros of OSR: less time rolling more time playing, easy chargen, limited only by you imagination. If brand is an issue, what about grating OSR games as a family of games to choose from, pick your favorite flavor. And best of all, most have a free version.CinderellaManJJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01922766356502615925noreply@blogger.com